...and now for something a little different

Steve [Nagarjuna] and I are going to try something a bit different with the new year.

This past year, Steve has had Naked Reflections as the focus of his blogging and I've had a host of ill-defined blogs to which I am giving equal-opportunity neglect.

So, this year we're going to try using Thoughts Chase Thoughts as a place where opposing ideas meet, based on what we find out there in the blogosphere. We're going to take representations of opposite sides of a dispute and see how they can be reconciled. Or, at the very least, we're going to see if we can understand what the crux of the dispute is.

Does it come from different ways of apprehending the world? Is a conflict due to different weightings of what's important? How well can we find a middleground that satisfies both sides? Maybe we can just sidestep the rancor and divine solutions.

Or, in other types of situations, Why did things develop the way they did? How did we get here!?

We at TCT will diagram the conflict and then invite bloggers who've written about the topic to 'come on down' and post their comments here.

Anyway, it's something new to try, fitting for the name of this blog, and I think it will be fun.

The New Year starts tomorrow.

Quest of the Seeker

Many of us embrace Western Buddhism as an effort to improve or understand ourself, or to understand or escape the illusion of self.

This is reasonable, of course. Buddhism centrally focuses on dukkha, the discomfort of experiencing the world from the vantage of ordinary mindedness.

But after that touchstone of dukkha, Buddhists diverge in their approaches. Variations in Buddhist instruction, our individual needs and assessments of ourself, cause us to veer apart from one another in what we try to do to reach the goal [or goalless goal] of no longer being whipped about by the vicissitudes of life and suffering sorrowful pangs for those hurt by us and the pain of hurt that we believe has been visited by others on us.

I enjoy very much the blogs Zen Under the Skin and Mystery of Existence, each of which is an expression from the tenacious, greatly intelligent effort of a blogger, walking the bodhisattva path, confronting dukkha, and coming to understand “how to be” and how to embrace the world. Still, these are very different blogs written by bloggers utilizing different methodologies.

Chalip of Zen Under the Skin wrote a post, recently, “A Solitary Work,” about breaking out of the cycle of judging others. In her conclusion, she endorsed these words of Shirdi Sai Baba, “Before you speak, ask yourself: Is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?”

	Chalip's blog, Zen Under the Skin.
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	Moe's blog, Mystery of Existence.

I could relate to the dilemma that inspired her post: “How much venting does one need? How long can you continue to discuss something or someone until you have utterly exhausted the topic? At what point has enough been said? When do you know that you've crossed the line from constructive conversation to judgmental bashing?”

I can relate to the thrust of so very much of Chalip’s blog: the effort to do the right thing -- to find and stay on the bodhisattva path -- and use one’s time and give of one’s time wisely. A central value for us readers is to relate another blogger’s personal quest through our own life’s challenges and to test, through the lense of our own life, the application of another blogger’s ideas, wisdom, and borrowed wisdom from the greats.

All of this can be both difficult and enriching. But because we are forever doubtful, skeptical and timid we fear we are unprepared to make the great leap. We fear we are falling short of making a full commitment and that this is the cause of our continued suffering.

I think it is a very curious thing, relating to others and relating with society. It certainly seems hard (and quite wrong, often) to “eat all blame,” oneself, in dealing with others, as chalip has alluded to in several posts. Taking others’ blame doesn’t feel like it serves truth or justice, and only rarely might it seem to be helpful. Besides, it is contrary to the Golden Rule: I wouldn’t want others to take the rap for my tresspasses. But is thinking this way the epidome of ordinary mindedness? Must we give up anything and everything that smacks of being self protective?

Something well short of absolute passivity may be called for. I think with people we can suppose are a little rugged, we can ourselves be rugged. Often you have to be a little course to get your point across. People you find to be highly sensitive, should be treated sensitively. But we should be aware that it can be a great disservice to treat anyone as if they are fragile glass.

A sense of what is true about the world comes from knowing others won’t approach you too delicately. Most people want to be in tune with the truth and that comes best from people who are established as straightforward expositors of the truth, as best they know it.

We think of the idea of “eating all blame” as meaning taking blame all upon oneself. But I wonder if that ancient idea might only mean ‘making blame disappear.’ Ancient people, unknowledgeable about anatomy, may not have had in mind the idea of, say, the molecules of an apple one eats become the cells in one's body. Certainly they knew that food gives one pleasure and energy and is related to bowel movements that occur later. But at its simplest, eating an apple makes it disappear. Could it be that “eating all blame” really only meant not discussing things in terms of blame -- a technique that Dr. Phil and other modern-day psychologists might heartily approve of?

Moe [or Per] of Mystery of Existence is much the free spirit, unattached to any belief system. AND, I think it is true that he doesn’t think of himself, formally, as a bodhisattva or a Buddhist. He delves deeply, and frequently, into the psychological mystery of being human, with keen interest in the mystical and Cosmic Consciousness - thinking creatively, originally; unchained to dogma.

In a post a couple months ago, Moe gave multiple answers to each of a core ten questions a writer at ChristianAnswers.net would want to ask Guatama Buddha. You can see in Moe’s answers a response that pulls away from the rigid worldview of the Christian questioner. MoE, it would seem, endeavors to widen the questioner’s sense of what is possible, and hope the questioner might, at least, come to appreciate the POV of someone schooled in the more open approach that comes from the East.

Here, one Q&A exchange:

Q: If your teaching, which came on the scene in the sixth century B.C., alone represents truth and liberation–what provision was there for the millions who lived previous to the advent of your enlightenment and teaching? Why do you suppose that you, of all humankind, were the one to come on this insight when you did?

A: I don’t see Buddhism as alone representing truth and liberation. On the contrary, people from a wide range of traditions and cultures have expressed similar insights as those expressed in Buddhism, including many Christian saints and mystics. If Buddhism points to anything that is real and available to be discovered, then it is available to anyone independent of tradition or culture. There is no need to adhere to Buddhism to notice these things, Buddhism is just one of many collections of pointers and practices that can help you notice it for yourself.

I embrace the approaches of both chalip and Moe and thank them for allowing me to ride along on their adventures in finding themselves and, by so doing, finding all of us.

Governments acting against the interests of citizens

BAGHDAD (AP) -- Iraq's government is prepared to offer the U.S. a long-term troop presence in Iraq and preferential treatment for American investments in return for an American guarantee of long-term security including defense against internal coups, The Associated Press learned Monday.

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Good God, more of the same. A government [the Iraqi one in this case] acting to protect itself in exchange for giving up its public's treasure. It's counterpart government [the US] is being asked to have more of its soldiers die in exchange for more filthy lucre for Halliburton and its ilk.

The Powerful looking for advantages for themselves for the petty price of a vast many young lives.

Truly, Greenspan was right: The reason the US is in Iraq is spelled O-I-L.

Biden Has Style and Substance and No Chance

I watched the Democratic debate last night. At least, I more or less watched it. I haven't yet disciplined myself to pay full attention to things that don't reach out and grab my interest by the neck. And political debates have a very limited reach and weak grasp in that respect. So does almost everything else connected with politics. There just seems to be so much posturing involved. Mostly style. Little substance.

Now don't get me wrong. I love good style. But I want it to walk hand-in-hand with plenty of substance. Political debates don't seem to do that very well. It's probably more the fault of the formats than of the debaters. The formats force the debaters to give thirty minute answers in one minute soundbites, or less. The result is not real debate. I'm not sure what to call it so long as it isn't debate. An "exhibition" perhaps. An exhibition of oratorical skill and personality under pressure. And this is how they're judged by the media "pundits" after the fact.

Immediately after last night's debate, all the analysts talked about were how Edwards and Obama came out swinging, how Hillary gave it back and then some to them, how the crowd seemed behind her when they clapped and cheered for her and booed Obama and Edwards, and how Hillary seemed to "want it" more than Obama did. It was an analysis of style and crowd reaction to style, not of the substance or actual content of what anyone said. I turned it off. I had better things to do. It would have been different if there had been some strong, concise analysis of what the exhibitors (or exhibitionists?) proposed in their rushed soundbites.

Now maybe that's too much to ask of a medium obsessed with ratings involving an audience of people who, in general, would apparently rather hear mostly about style and little or nothing about substance. Or is this only appearance and not reality? And maybe we can't legitimately expect even "the best political team on television" to know enough about the subjects exhibited to analyze the soundness of what the exhibitors presented. Yet, I somehow think that some of them are capable of this. But they, like the exhibitors/debaters themselves, aren't allowed the opportunity to strut their stuff.

However, I believe that the person who came closest to strutting his stuff last night was Joe Biden. He might well be my pick for president if I were voting today. Why? Because he seems to me to have the best combination of what we desperately need in a president at this extremely urgent time including an unrivaled grasp of both foreign and domestic policy, obvious high intelligence, a potent blend of perspicacious realism and passionate idealism, unforced eloquence, and an intriguing mix of gravitas and not taking himself too seriously.

Yes, I know he has supported the war in Iraq, although he's also offered what may be the most realistic plan for getting us out of it:

1. Giving Iraq's major groups a measure of autonomy in their own regions. A central government would be left in charge of interests such as defending the borders and distributing oil revenues.
2. Guaranteeing Sunnis — who have no oil rights — a proportionate share of oil revenue and reintegrating those who have not fought against Coalition forces.
3. Increase, not end, reconstruction assistance but insist that Arab Gulf states fund it and tie it to the creation of a jobs program and to the protection of minority rights.
4. Initiate a diplomatic offensive to enlist the support of the major powers and neighboring countries for a political settlement in Iraq and create an Oversight Contact Group to enforce regional commitments.
5. Begin the phased redeployment of U.S. forces in 2007 and withdraw most of them by 2008, leaving a small follow-on force for security and policing actions. The plan named as The Biden-Brownback Resolution passed on the Senate floor 75-23 on September 25th, 2007, including 26 Republican votes. (from Wikipedia)

Yes, I know he can come off as almost egomaniacally self-promoting at times. So, he's not perfect. But he may be the least imperfect presidential candidate from either side of the political aisle. He seems to me to be the most complete package. If he were president, I would feel assured that we were in the best hands we could probably find. Perhaps we need Dennis Haysbert doing a political commercial for him reassuringly boasting, "You're in good hands with Biden."

Of course, Biden doesn't have a chance of getting the nomination. He's way down in the polls, although I don't know why, and that alone keeps him from receiving the media attention that might elevate his position. But one can only hope that a Democrat is elected president and that she or he appoints Biden Secretary of State.

So much for my post-debate commentary. I realize that it, like the "exhibits" and analyses I criticized earlier, is very short on substance. But then what do you expect? I'm not even a member of the best political team on television.

Myth As Fact?

God has created the world in play.
– Sri Ramakrishna

A simple, childlike story in India’s ancient scriptures tells how multiplicity emerged from unity. The Lord, the One without a second, felt very lonesome one morning. After all, he was the only thing that existed in the entire universe, so when he looked around him, he could see no one but himself. This did not satisfy him at all. He wanted to play.

So he made playmates. Out of himself he created the myriads of creatures, the two-footed and the four-footed. He started playing with them, playing hide-and-seek, which is what life is all about. We are all playing this game with the Lord. We are all seeking him, and he is hiding playfully from us.

It is easy to talk about this, sing about this, paint this, but it is an entirely different matter to experience it. Yet in deepest meditation, the veil separating you and me can drop. Then, beneath the varied costumes, we will be able to perceive the same supreme Reality whom we call God, who is playing his game in the world.

--Eknath Easwaran

I like Easwaran's wonderfully clear and simple telling of this ancient Hindu story better than I do almost any other version I've come across. But the thing is, Hindus and Wilberians alike seem to take this story as fact. They may call it "myth" and explain that it "points at" rather than embodies Reality, but it seems to me that, when all is said and done, they take the story quite literally. The "Ultimate Reality" is consciousness that has intentionally "involuted" Itself into the world that subsequently struggles and evolves to regain its original unity.

But every time I hear and consider this, I wonder why the perfection of Ultimate Unity would EVER consciously--i.e., intentionally--become a messy and chaotic multiplicity wracked by suffering. Yes, I know that the Hindu and Wilberian mystics joyfully proclaim that this multiplicity and suffering is still, ultimately, a perfect Unity. But their perception and mine on this seem so far apart that I wonder if one of us isn't terribly deluded and whether I am necessarily the one so afflicted. This world seems anything BUT unified and perfect, and just because mystics and integral philosophers tell me it is doesn't mean I buy what they tell me.

Ken Wilber suggests that if I undergo the right "injunction" or spiritual discipline, I will discover for myself that the mystics are right and that my old way of seeing things was wrong. But I wonder if this is isn't all-too-analogous to saying that everyone who takes psilocybin will, at some point, see strange things happen to the objects in front of their eyes; therefore, those things are ACTUALLY happening. The floor is REALLY undulating like the ocean, and those plants in the vase before you are REALLY growing and shrinking, growing and shrinking before your very eyes.

The Bee in Gwen Bell’s Bonnet: Are middle-aged white guys stinking up mainstream American Buddhism?

In a podcast at Zen is Stupid called “Privilege,” Gwen Bell makes some serious charges against middle-aged, middle-class (and wealthy) male American Buddhists whom she accuses of using Buddhism as another trapping of the good life, instead of as a base for doing good in the world. She also says that the reason women are slighted or unseen and non-whites are largely absent from Western Buddhism – in meatspace sanghas and online – is because of the toxic presence of certain white males that Western Buddhism attracts. Her remarks merit attention to assess the validity of the problem she identifies, which could lead to curative efforts, or, if she’s wrongheaded about much of this, to understand what all the grumbling is about. She is not the first to complain.

In another aspect, the “Privilege” conversation is troubling since Gwen seems clearly to be taking potshots at authors Brad Warner, Ethan Nichtern and Noah Levine (each of whom, separately, saw publication of his Buddhism book this year and each of whom Gwen interviewed as a member of the Buddhist Geeks team) and at Vincent Horn (her fellow Geek who openly, frequently writes and talks about his long meditation retreats, one of the activities Gwen disdains).

Zen is Stupid posts weekly audiocasts that are a conversation between Gwen and Patrick Reynolds concerning life topics. Past topics include stripping; blogging; ill-health; non-belief in enlightenment and difficult people. The conversations are all casual, always a bit goofy and spiked with a little obtuse or politically incorrect sentiment, usually from Gwen who is more the firebrand of the pair, with Patrick damping things down when he's not trying to rev up passions.

In addition to her weekly ZIS thing and being the most prolific Geeks interviewer, Gwen writes reams about herself at gwenbell.com and, [I think] with long-time boyfriend Patrick, is owner of a yoga studio in Yokohama, Japan. She is currently on a year-long sabbatical, of sorts [I think], from her duties as an instructor at the studio.

White Male Buddhists. Gwen’s Gripe.

There is uncertainty in the “Privilege” podcast as to the parameters of the group that is being criticized. The text blurb in the RSS feed reads “Let's be honest, American Buddhism is dominated by middle-aged white dudes. What does this mean?” In the early part of the audio, the terms used are “stupid white Buddhists, most of them male,” “stupid white Buddhist zen men,” “white middle-class men [Buddhist teachers]” “Buddhism, a pursuit of wealthy white men” “middle-class white men [in Buddhism]” “privileged white folks,” and, near the end of the podcast, “Buddhist jerks,” and “asshole drivers.”

Zen is Stupid podcasts are unrehearsed conversations that are uninhibited. It is healthy (maybe) for there to be a place for that. It’s a kind of brainstorm that encourages black clouds and thunder, with two people whipping themselves up into a bit of a frenzy. So if it is frustratingly non-conducive to close scrutiny, is self-contradicting and a bit crazy, that’s to be expected. I should allow for that. But such an environment where people are encouraging each other’s over-reaches can become surreal with hypocrisy. And when it is done in front of the whole wide world, it may be more of a wild and hurtful and damaging thing than a society-healthy means to touch on issues that are taboo, yet need to be explored.

From this rough slightly-abridged transcript scrap, starting from near the beginning of the podcast, Gwen gets into her issues:

Gwen: What’s my gripes? … Well I was reading a review recently in a Shambhala publication … and there were three books being reviewed, all by up-and-coming Buddhist teachers, all of them white middle-class men. [The review that Gwen is referring to can be found here.]…[A]t the end of the piece … it says this “If there’s one concluding observation to make regarding the next generation of Buddhist teachers, it’s the absence of women’s voices. … Although Sumi Loundon’s Blue Jean Buddha: Voices of Young Buddhists rounded up younger practitioners of both genders, young female teachers have yet to develop a high profile. This is ironic … given that a distinguishing characteristic of Western Buddhism is gender egalitarianism. So while plenty of first-generation Western female teachers have influenced students and made their mark on contemporary practice, on the matter of second-generation female Buddhist teachers, you’ll have to stay tuned.”

Patrick: So you feel that Buddhism in America is basically a pursuit of wealthy white men?

Gwen: Right! It’s almost another thing to add to an already very rich, full, fulfilling life, and then waving the suffering flag like “Oh we all have suffering; we all have suffering” but failing to see that most of these middle-class white men are pretty close to samadhi compared to the rest of the developing or developmentally challenged world.

Patrick: I totally feel you on that. …People’s idea on suffering is all relative. … Suffering isn’t like a glass that gets more full. Pain is pain, right? So what’s the difference between a girl-who-doesn’t-get-into-a-sorority’s pain and someone in war-torn Africa who’s lost her family? For both of those people that’s the worst thing that’s ever happened to them. Is there a difference? What do you think?

Gwen: The major difference from where I stand, or sit, is the capability of these privileged white folks to get out there and do something and act and to creatively reduce suffering in the world rather than from their high-horse wave their “I am suffering” flags. Do you understand what I’m saying?

Patrick: I think that’s a much better way to go about it. Because I don’t really think it’s cool to say “you guys are rich, therefore your suffering doesn’t count as much.”

Gwen: No, no. That’s not my accusation at all. The point I’m really trying to make is “Get a grip guys. You’re suffering; we’re all suffering. But you have so many more options. You have health care available to you, and you have so many options to reduce your suffering than many other inhabitants on planet earth.

Patrick: Sometimes I think that being born American, especially a white American, is kind of like being born into royalty. … We’re white Americans. We have been given a very good chance, here, to do whatever we want with our lives.

Gwen: That’s true. And I think that both of us are making the choice to do things that elevate the lives of those around us in any way we can and in the communities of the people in which we’re a part. So I think we have been very pro-active and I think this idea of Engaged Buddhism and being engaged in the world instead of thinking of going away for two months to do another retreat. What about taking those two months and taking them and getting involved in Habitat for Humanity and helping people? You know, in yoga there’s this idea of Karma Yoga, some sort of “giving back.”

In response to refining questions from Patrick, Gwen better defines her “gripes.” Gwen says the kind of male Buddhist that bothers her is not the guy who quietly engages in his practice. “The kind of guy that bothers me is more vocal, and quicker to fling poo and spends numerous hours on chat boards and that sort of thing and instead of contributing to a community maybe breaking a community apart. That kind of thing.” She says, “But that’s not the only thing. These books that I’ve been reading by middle-aged or younger white dudes aren’t really doing much to stoke my fire as a practitioner. And I guess my beef is just sort of with this rehashing what the gurus have already said, rehashing what the masters have already talked about, trying to make it come off, like, ‘this is accessible or approachable by a twentysomething Buddhist.’ Give me a break.”

You have to think the “middle-aged or younger white dude” writers she’s focusing on are Brad Warner, Ethan Nichtern and Noah Levine, the three guys whose books were reviewed on the page of the Shambhala publication ["Buddhism's Young Turks"; Shambhala Sun; Sept. 2007 issue] Gwen read from that began the podcast. The three dudes fit the description, in addition each one of them was interviewed by Gwen for Buddhist Geeks this year. The Brad Warner Interview can be found here: Part I, Part II, Part III. The Ethan Nichtern Interview has been partially posted: Part I, Part II. The Noah Levine Interview was conducted, but Gwen told us in a BG podcast midyear, a conversation among the Geeks, that she felt the interview was too much of a book push, so she didn’t turn it in to Ryan to eventually get posted.

Where are all the Women? The Black Buddhists? The Latino Buddhists?

Later in the Gwen-Patrick conversation …

Patrick: …. let me ask you, Where are the women? Where are the black people? Where are the Latino Buddhists?

Gwen: Maybe they’re like “Do I want to be part of this Boys’ Club? I don’t think so.” … I’m just throwing that out there. That being said, I think a lot of female and people of color and all sorts of Buddhists are doing their Karma Yoga, as it were -- their Karma Buddhism -- quietly, in perhaps a lot less -vocal, -ostentatious way. That’s how it’s been for eons, I guess. That’s how it always will be. You know. Maybe that’s how it always will be. The people who are absolutely crucial in building a foundation for all these things to happen, as usual, are the ones who aren’t getting recognition, aren’t speaking up, or whatever. I mean, I’ve made the call multiple times on my blog, including Buddhist Geeks, saying “Where are the women?” When the comment sections are just getting deep in academia, or whatever, women don’t want to get involved in that a lot of times, because our practice and, perhaps, our ethos is living from the heart, connecting with people, taking what we can from books that we‘ve read and the teachers that we’ve sat with and practiced with and integrating that to what we’re doing on a daily basis.”

Patrick: Maybe the challenge for yourself is letting these dudes, these people, talk and just letting it go. You’re not going to shut ‘em up. Nobody’s going to listen to this podcast and say “You know what? I’m going to stop being a Buddhist jerk.”

Gwen: It’s true. But what about who’s going to answer the call when the call comes out: “Where are all the Buddhist women?” What about being a voice.

Patrick: Who you?

Gwen: Yeah, me and all the other Buddhist women who are out there going “Hi. What’s happening here?”

Patrick: You’ve gotta set up a system. How about a women’s Buddhist organization?

Gwen: I was thinking about DatingTheDharma.com

From here, as things wrap up, it gets strange. Patrick claims a connection between American royalty and Buddha - that seems completely backwards, if you know anything about Buddha’s life and ill-conceived if the point is that we should all become Engaged Buddhists. Buddha was not known for his construction of homes for the poor.

Gwen feels better after doing the podcast. What she takes from it is that she should just “let go and let that conversation [between the middle-aged white guys] continue to be had and just maybe rise above the din.”

And Patrick then says “the only people who are impressed by asshole drivers are other assholes. You know what I mean? So, I think that the only people listening to all this chatter on the boards, you know, and all this ‘I know the finer details of this sutra, and you don‘t.’ Let ‘em do it, whatever. They‘re not going to listen to this podcast, and that‘s good.”

Ethan Nichtern and Noah Levine Respond

Both Ethan Nichtern and Noah Levine gave me their responses to the Zen is Stupid podcast.

Both were troubled by the gross generalizations and slapdash way with “facts” in the podcast, but both agreed with Gwen’s sense that something’s wrong in the state of Buddhism.

“I felt that her perspectives were unresearched and unfounded on anything but a surface glance at Buddhism in America today,” wrote Noah. “[but]…her heart is in the right place...and I agree with her general sentiment.”

Ethan wrote, “I totally agree with the frustration behind Gwen’s sentiment. Totally. Sometimes I think I was born a white male because it gives me a lot of dark historical karma to purify…

“Also I think we need to be very precise demographically, which Gwen and Patrick’s conversation fails to be. There are very few truly rich Americans involved in the dharma. Very few. If there were more, American Buddhism would have more political and social clout than it does. About three people out of the many hundreds of meditators I know can afford Hummers. The idea that Buddhism is a pursuit of the wealthy is not backed up at all statistically. It is a very convenient misconception. American dharma is mostly a 40- and 50- and 60-something middle-class white pursuit. That is true.”

Noah wrote in defense of his and Ethan’s programs. “Ethan and his community are very engaged, working for social justice and equality. I have been told that my community is probably the most diverse and perhaps the most engaged group of Buddhists currently evolving …. The majority of people who study with me are involved in social and political action. And I, myself, have been serving the incarcerated population for over ten years. I can’t comment on Brad’s work because I am not familiar enough with what he is up to.”

Ethan wrote critically of the Shambhala Sun piece. “[W]hen I read the [review Gwen] referred to, I felt a little bad because [the writer] made it seem sort of like the three of us (Noah, Brad, and I) were acting as some intentional white male movement. I also felt bad because now there’s finally three “young" (none of whom are actually young) authors, and we’re already getting blamed for being men? It was hard enough for us to throw our voices into the self-help-obsessed, happiness-in-three-easy-steps publishing ring.”

Noah and Ethan ended their emails with similar good feeling about Gwen. Wrote Noah, “I met Gwen once...she interviewed me… I am sure she will become the engaged solution that she sees as currently missing.” Ethan wrote, “I like Gwen a lot. I hope she becomes a meditation teacher (a note to anyone who wants to do that – it is the hardest, most draining, and most fulfilling thing you could do). I hope she writes a great book. That would help solve the problems she refers to.”

My two cents.

My feelings are harsh toward Gwen and Patrick. But irony tumbling on stacks of irony, I do see, at this moment, the difficult in making a complaint about complaining. But my complaint isn’t really with their complaining (I tell myself). At its base, there is a difficult topic they are endeavoring to deal with and things that annoy them that they are trying to understand. And that’s good. I admire spunk and a journey of investigation.

Still, from my position judging others (horrors; I wish I wouldn‘t do that) they exhibit evidence of self-cherishing that goes off the scale.

I don’t know everything Gwen and Patrick are talking about, though I have little doubt I’m included in the class of folks they disdain. God knows, I can’t afford a Hummer, but I exhibit core characteristics.

While I’m not academic, I’m argumentative and more comfortable with objective issues than with subjective feelings. I have the right skin color, a penis, come from the middle-class even though I’ve dropped below that now, and the gray hairs are taking over like crabgrass.

I don’t know chat rooms or forums. I haven’t posted to one since I was tossed from the Tricycle forum for the fifth time in the late 90s. But I comment on blogs and tend to voice my heartfelt disagreements.

I like disagreement -- rather, I should say, discussions where we dig into things. If someone is comfortable disagreeing with you, they’re probably telling you the truth.

When everyone is sticky nice, agreeing with each other, I don’t consider that to be a tranquil community, or somewhere where you can learn anything. I consider that to be something from a fundamentalist church or the Stepford Wives. Rather, heated discourse among self-aware, self-deprecating people = Good. Insistence that ostracizing half the people, or complaining about complaining, is the path to Utopia = Bad.

Rising above the din isn’t something Gwen and Patrick are going to do right now. They ARE the din in the Zen is Stupid podcasts. They are the dinnest of the din. And the idea of “rising above” isn’t the path in any Buddhism I’m aware of - except for that stay-away-from-fools thing in the Dhammapada.

If I were to make a recommendation to Gwen and Patrick, and Buddha Knows I’m arrogant enough to do just that, I’d do it right here and now, since I have the expectation they will read this post.

So here it is [It‘s derivative guru stuff, no doubt. But read it, all the same.]:

• Learn some appreciation for what you disdain. I don’t claim to live fully up to that ideal, but I do somewhat and I believe in it. It’s amazing what you can learn to appreciate in the lives and approaches to things of others.
• Endeavor to be factually precise. At least when you cut corners, feel bad about it.
• Doubt there are conspiracies. People are always more messed up than you think, unique and too cranky to gel a good conspiracy, and there is always too much chaos and disorder in people's lives to sustain any secretiveness. There is no network of middle-aged white guys in Buddhism, either in some grand scheme or in any locality.
  

There. Don’t you hate that, you twentysomethings? That middle-aged pontificating. But you can never know something until you take it on as your own. THAT is what those annoying middle-aged (or slightly younger) men are into. They are a step further into the dharma (they think, at least). It isn’t “recited dogma” anymore for them; they are getting a truer glimpse of the dharma and are jazzed by that. They have their own view into the forest and want to test it and share it.

What you are wrongheaded about, many of you twentysomethings, is thinking in terms that you aren’t yet adults, that those middle-aged so-and-so's are lording things over you. But as most of these older folks know, everybody past childhood, in the most important sense, is the same age. You’re the same age as your parents. You’re the same age as your grandparents. You aren’t really going to get more mature, you’re only going to mature by realizing you are mature. And that you’re arrived NOW and are as much in control as you’re ever going to be. Thus, there is no such thing as middle-aged fuddy-duddies. Adults stop thinking they're children.

God. I could write a book.

But the important question is how do we get many more young people and non-whites to get bit by the Buddhism bug? And how do we encourage more women to make their voices heard? I don’t know.

11/5/07 Update: In the description box of the 44th episode posted by Buddhist Geeks it is announced that Gwen is no longer a member of the BG Team. The wording is thus: "We ... want to thank Gwen Bell for the interview, of which it will be her last here on Buddhist Geeks."

Meng of "What Do You Think, My Friend?" on the front page of The New York Times

Tan Chade-Meng, known as Meng, the fellow who in May of 1995 started “What Do You Think, My Friend?” , which is one of the oldest, most-venerated Buddhist websites, appeared on the front of The New York Times Online, today -- ID’ed as “The Google Guy.” He is pictured four times, in a montage with Madeleine Albright, Mohammad Ali, Robin Williams and Tom Brokaw -- four of more than a hundred luminaries The Times reports he has been pictured with at Google headquarters.

The article, "Who's With Gwyneth? The Google Guy" says “At Google, Mr. Tan has a reputation as a top-flight engineer. But he is also known for his fondness for one-liners and for being a regular contributor to the company’s online humor groups. The job title on his business card reads: “Jolly Good Fellow (which nobody can deny).”

Yep. That is online Buddhism’s funny Meng. There is a lot of humor in “What Do You Think, My Friend?” including a page called "A lighter side of Buddhism." At his website, Meng doesn't mention his job at Google. It has this to say: "The author of this site is Tan Chade-Meng, a Singapore-born Software Engineer working in California."

In the Times article, there is no mention of Meng being a Founding Father of Buddhism on the Internet or of being Buddhist.

A link on Meng's "lighter side" page is to an article I wrote that Meng graciously served as a panelist/contributor for, "Laughing Your Way to Enlightenment," which appeared in the short-lived online e-mag Hundred Mountain in February 2000.

In my article, lo seven years ago, Meng is quoted many times, including this: “I think that being a Buddhist is very simple,” Meng says. “It's just about cultivating kindness, compassion, mindfulness and calmness. Very simple, but not easy at all.”

A jolly good fellow, he is. And that nobody, famous or not famous, can deny.

Tricycle as The Buddhist Enquirerer OR Why Clark Strand Must Change or Die

Strand's op piece is in the back of the Fall 2007 issue of Tricycle magazine [page 80], but gets a cover banner nod. Though the article is preposterous, the idea of the demise of Buddhism is titillating and might sell lots of copies at the newsstands.

In yet another one of his overblown, absurd attacks on Buddhism in Tricycle magazine, contributing editor Clark Strand, in the current issue, in an opinion piece titled "Dharma Family Values Or, Why American Buddhism must change or die", explains to us why American Buddhism must become Catholicism Lite or face a downward spiral toward oblivion. There just aren’t enough boring, meaningless rituals in Buddhism to rope the poor kiddies in. By the time they’re fourteen or fifteen, American kids leave our religion to take up the excitement of knitting or to memorize Gilbert and Sullivan show tunes. Yes, teenagers love to be bored and really hate excitement. We must make of Buddhism "that old-time religion," which was good enough for great-grandpa and is exactly what fourteen-year-olds crave.

Strand believes that rituals and tradition and chanting and marriages and burials and birthings, as well as prominent religious holidays, act as family-cohering events within a religion, something the Christians and Jews have in plenitude, while we stinting Buddhists have very little of that group-hug, dress-up bonding crap.

As part of his screed, Strand wrote this, with, from all evidence, a straight face and serious fingers,"In essence, the problem is this: Buddhism swelled its ranks during the post-1960 era to accommodate the spiritual interests of the baby boom generation that is even now beginning to die off, and yet those Boomer Buddhists, although they might finagle a way to get themselves married or buried as Buddhists, in most cases haven't birthed their children or raised them as Buddhists (or not effectively, at least). As a result, Buddhism in America will face a serious crisis over the next few decades, when it will be forced essentially to start over, bringing new Buddhists to the fold instead of making them."

The Fall 2007 issue of Tricycle.

It is curious to me why Strand would even want American Buddhism to survive. Over three years ago, in the Winter 2003-04 issue of Trike, he wrote, “When African Americans step into a Buddhist meditation center, that invisible culture is the first thing they see. They may be strong enough to participate in it without losing heart, or their racial identity, or both. Or they may be so strongly motivated to practice in that particular tradition that it just doesn't matter. In any event, they won't be kicked out for being black, because there are few outright bigots in the white Buddhist world. But the deeper racism, the passive racism committed to all the mannered nuances of its own culture – that is felt right away. No wonder most African Americans never make it through the door. There's no sign saying they can't come it. There doesn't have to be.”

Perhaps in the years between the two of his articles I’ve quoted, Stand has become a fully acclimated member of the racist cult of Buddhism and wants those white American Buddhist babies to be born, to be initiated and to grow up like their parents, put on the white hood and burn wheels (instead of crosses) on black families’ lawns. Yeah, if the white Buddhist population grows and prospers, we can wipe out the negro identity! Soon, all those black folk will be jiving like Britney Spears and singing like K-Fed.

Based on his record, here are some future articles mean-green Clark Strand can write for Tricycle:

"American Buddhists Chew the Heads off Baby Ducks because They Go Great with White Tea and Cheese Whiz."

"American Buddhists Stockpile Machetes for Genocide in Samoa"

"Michael Vick is Elected Head of the American Buddhist Conference because Buddhists Figure if He’s not Afraid to Gut Live Pit Bulls, Surely He can Stand Being Around Us”

and

“Buddhist Monks Must Poke Many Women to Spread the Buddhist Gene!”

Update: Recently, James Ure in the venerable The Buddhist Blog wrote a wonderful, thoughtful, kindly post, "Buddhism and Children," that is also critical of Strand's Trike article. Well worth reading, y'all. Too, it has a very interesting comment thread.